Public opinion demonstrates significant concern regarding the misuse of gubernatorial powers and the integrity of the Supreme Court in addressing these issues. Many express skepticism about the Court's ability to limit executive overreach and emphasize the need for clear accountability and reinforcement of democratic principles in state governance.

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Governers are appointed by President , President is chosen by Centre. So why will the centre ever have a problem ? /s

Numerous-Concern-801

These RSS whore stooges governers need to be tried for treason.


Hatao yaar iss gobar khane wali party ko. 

Head_Opportunity2651

Lay people can tell with mere common sense that presidents, governors, other agents of the Central government have no right to sit on bills passed by democratically elected legislative assemblies. 

The Court has also previously agreed with this concept by ordering the signatures to be done within a reasonable 3-month period.

Only the BJ Party-led centre will find fault with common sense. /smh

Wachkuss

&gt;neither state governments nor the Centre can approach the court under Article 32 of the Constitution to challenge delays by governors or the president in granting assent to bills, the Hindustan Times reported.

art 32 is only for Fundamental rights which government doesn't have

unspoken_one2

Translation: I cannot file pleas against my own actions.

Juvegamer23

ShiningWater

Judges are Appointed by the president. President is chosen by the union Government. 

Just saying.

Epsilon009

prof_devilsadvocate3

Everything so far people want to file PILs about the centre , centre shuts down by saying they can't do that/can't get answers for it. What can they f****** answer then???? When the Supreme Court unveiled Lady Liberty without the blindfold, i realised from that moment that Justice will never be served even with the truth laid down in front of your eyes. 🙄

crizes1

It's a good thing.

The President should never have had the power to unilaterally veto state bills anyway. This judgement doesn't even take it away. Just forces the President to do his job and sets a timeframe to do it.

The President permanently stalling state bills is a complete affront to the federal structure. 

If the Union can block any state by having its agent ( the Governor) refer anything to the President (chosen by the Union) and permanently stall bills that have passed the state legislature, there is no federal structure. It's just unitary control at that point.

AdvocateMukundanUnni

So courts can alter constitution at their will? 

Presidents and Governors have been given veto powers under Article 111. Courts have no right to dictate how President should act. 

No one has an iota of trust on nepotism judges. Only 12% of HC and SC judges have declared assets.

This judicial overreach should be the next target of BJP in parliament.

AIM-120-AMRAAM

&gt; If a bill is reserved due to questions of constitutional validity, the top court underlined that the executive should not assume the role of the courts. It said such questions should be referred to the Supreme Court under Article 143.

&gt;"We have no qualms in stating that the hands of the executive are tied when engaging with purely legal issues in a bill and only the constitutional courts have the prerogative to study and provide recommendations as regards the constitutionality of a bill," the Supreme Court said.

Clear usurpation of the power of the Union by the court, now when the state legislature wants to infringe the power of the Union, the Union can't decide it on its own, rather the SC will meddle in it. It will give rise to constitutional crisis if the judgement is not overturned.

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In other words governor/president can hold elected representatives to ransom by not passing bills, is that what they want ?

-Divided_We_Stand

This govt is quasi autocratic, they don’t let other govt work so that they can score political brownies against them , and when other parties calls them out , they start to cry and ends up calling them against the federalism or idea of India . We have a petty leader as prime minister and evil party bjp ruling us. For that party , only electoral win matters , they have already sold national interest to fucking Adani

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Bol wo rahi hai lekin shabd kisi aur ke hai

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charavaka

A 3 month timeline to reject a bill or pass a bill, should be enough time. What is the debate in this issue? 

Can someone make a rumour that the Governor post is created by British Rule and they are still working for the British. So that our beloved RSS teams and co., will go and destroy their Bhavans.

ForzaFerrari7

Supreme leader ne bola to inhone puch liya

GlitteringWafer9263

https://x.com/mkstalin/status/1922908484372398116

I strongly condemn the Union Government’s Presidential reference, which attempts to subvert the Constitutional position already settled by the Hon’ble Supreme Court in the Tamil Nadu Governor’s case and other precedents. This attempt clearly exposes the fact that the Tamil Nadu Governor acted at the BJP’s behest to undermine the people’s mandate. This is nothing but a desperate attempt to weaken democratically elected State Governments by placing them under the control of Governors serving as agents of the Union Government. It also directly challenges the majesty of law and the authority of the Supreme Court as the final interpreter of the Constitution.
Why should there be any objection to prescribing time limits for Governors to act? Is the BJP seeking to legitimise its Governors’ obstruction by allowing indefinite delays in Bill assent? Does the Union Government intend to paralyse non-BJP State Legislatures? Our nation stands at a critical juncture. The questions raised in the reference reveal the BJP-led Union Government’s sinister intent to distort the Constitution’s basic distribution of powers and incapacitate the State Legislatures dominated by opposition parties. Thus, it poses a clear exigent threat to State autonomy. In these grave circumstances, I urge all non-BJP States and party leaders to join this legal struggle to defend the #Constitution. We will fight this battle with all our might.

frizene26

BionicWanderer2506

Didn't the same courts disagree for timelines on court cases??

rookiefluke

By same analogy

Why is the Executive "powerless to intervene" if Courts sit over cases for years, rendering the Judiciary "defunct" 

Also, Executive is elected by people of India while Judges appoint themselves through Collegium system

BigSweet3806

I don't think they'll scrap all of it, just the parts about not allowing federal courts to enforce orders against the executive branch using public funds, and maybe some other stuff.

Correct_Doctor_1502

"Rubber Stamp Republicans" is a perfect description of the Republicans who haven't passed any bills but now pass Trump's entire agenda in the dead of night. I think I will start using it.

Ornery_Cookie_359

No they won't. They just ruled to end independent agencies and give Trump direct control over all of them. They gave him full immunity. They'll give him this, too.

headcodered

I admire your faith in the Supreme Court. Wish I could share it. But I’ve been disillusioned enough by now to know that they will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop this man. In fact, they will ENABLE him, and only HASTEN the country’s downfall because, as I’ve learned, THEY GENUINELY DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, OR OUR LAWS (SOME justices do, but they’re outnumbered). They’ve allowed Trump to WIPE HIS ASS with the Constitution, and break every conceivable law. Why would they stop now? The Constitution is just words on a page. It quite obviously has no meaning or weight anymore. They have handed over the reins of government COMPLETELY to Trump. They don’t give a shit, and they have already demonstrated that they will do ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL (that’s British for “ABSOLUTELY NOTHING”) to defend it, to get in Trump’s way, or hold him accountable.

And before you call me defeatist, I’m not. I’m trying to simply be HONEST. The hope you have is very idealistic, but I think the sooner we get realistic about things, the sooner we will be able to find our way out of this. We need to face facts: The Supreme Court is not going to swoop in &amp; save us. In fact, they’ve helped CREATE this situation. Our system of checks and balances has failed miserably. This will require nothing less than a full REVOLUTION. It will be ugly and painful, but that is the only way we will see any change. I’m sorry to have to break it to you.

ArmchairCriticSF

Aw, you think that the Trump admin will listen to the Supreme Court, that’s cute. We’ve already crossed the rubicon. American voting populace fucked around, and is about to find out “fall of weimar” style.

ImOutOfIceCream

Legislation like this has "lines" (I forgot the term, but there is a legal term for it, and its standard) where if part of the bill is declared unconstitutional, ONLY that part of the bill is "ripped out" and the rest can stay.

The ONLY way to declare the whole thing unconstitutional, would be if that clause (please forgive me, I can't remember the term at the moment) is absent....and it won't be. 

Leaving it out is like a poison pill. 

If SCOTUS were to ignore that clause and try to declare the whole bill unconstitutional, then trump would actually have a legit case against the courts.

SugarSweetSonny

Bills (or more specifically, laws) don't go through the Supreme Court. The SC doesn't preemptively decide to declare bills/laws unconstitutional. And they don't tell Congress to start over. 

The only way any of the bill would make it to the SC would be if someone else made a legal challenge to it. And in most instances like that, the case would have to go through lower courts first on behalf of the plaintiff. Also, they'd likely only rule on the unconstitutional provisions in the law, but not against the laws in its entirety. 

Article III of the constitution limits and defines the process of how laws make it the SC.

issafly

hey no, they will confirm it, like always, money talks

whatchagonadot

This bill has a tax break on tanning beds……let that sink in.

tomtom82

MMW The Supreme Court no longer exists. This is the Trump Court.

Open-Incident-3601

Even if they do, how are they gonna enforce it? Who's gonna stop Trump and his cult from destroying everything? The bill already includes a provision preventing any enforcement of contempt citations, so how is the court going to enforce anything?

mynamesnotsnuffy

I knew 2025 was real. Why just why did people put this guy back in office? Trump and his unqualified administration are the worst this country has ever seen.

AcrobaticLadder4959

Doubtful. These budget bills are usually the least likely overturned.

LodossDX

One would think so, considering how it strips judges of power.

MonsterkillWow

Especially if they see the clause someone snuck in there eviscerating the courts. That's not going to fly.

williamweinmann

Apparently some are not paying attention to this court as it bows to their King Don repeatedly.

Bummerboy4

Jrbai

buddymoobs

But it won’t matter bc the bill has pieces to extremely limit the federal courts, including SCOTUS. https://www.newsweek.com/hidden-provision-trump-bill-court-2075769

L7meetsGF

ChurtchPidgeon

I think this MMW is more like a hopeful wish.  I do agree that anything not budget related will get carved out in the Senate.  I am hoping that most of the pork added at the 11th hour is removed.

PrestigiousCrab6345

The only thing that will stop fascism is the 2nd amendment. That it. Fascism is steamrolling over our constitution. The Supreme court is all on board.

thatgenxguy78666

Lol, trump has broken almost every law that's ever been written. Dafuq you going on about that this one is gonna be the one that stops him?

Indolent-Soul

Lower_Acanthaceae423

No it won't. It will strike some really shitty stuff, but you have to fight one provision at a time. You can't fight the entire bill in one challenge based on not liking what's in the bill

ellecellent

dgillz

Bethechangeurme

Raraavisalt434

Congress  holds the power of the purse   the courts cannot force Congress  to fund them

Rich-Sleep1748

Fuzzteam7

Choice_Magician350

Not one thing you said is factual.  Congress writes the bull and makes it law.  Trump just approves or disapproves.  That is all the President does.  Stop making things unreal.

PaperExternal5186

These maga republicans talk big about the Constitution, they even bought their religious book with a copy of the Constitution. Yet all this president has done, assisted by these republican enablers, is violate the constitution. Which should tell everyone what they really want, a one party fascist state with no checks and balances.

MMW: It will not matter. Haven't we learned that nothing that inconveniences Donald Trump is real by now?

StopThePresses

Wait you think the SC has enough integrity to push back on this? One third of them are directly his own hand-picked lackeys. Then there are Thomas, Alito, and Roberts who were the ones behind the wording of the immunity case that handed him ultimate power. At least two of them would have to side with democrats and risk actual violence from the regime in doing so

Eeeef_

National_Lie1565

If Senate Republicans poop the bed and pass this bill, then I surely hope that this is true

burntorangecycle

Mickey6382

I highly doubt it, but it would be great if they did

Ozzyluvshockey21

ohreddit1

Nope. Not SCOTUS’s purview. That is strictly a measure of Congress. It’s not even within the purview of the Presidency except to push for certain spending or cuts. SCOTUS has zero say over how money is spent, wishful thinking though you may have. You may want to read up on Articles I, II, and III.

Fotoman54

Sure thing goober. Anything you say. Perhaps furnish constitutional verbiage to the contrary.

It'd be nice, but it's never gonna happen.

Epicurus402

RedyPlayaWon

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ravia

Until he tried to steal all their power, they probably would have let it through, now they're trying to fend off a guy they let in...

Realistic_Let3239

It is….do you trust the Supreme Court to do the right thing?

PineappleExcellent90

You haven’t actually said what is unconstitutional about the bill.

OpeningChipmunk1700

I’m not sure they have an authority to rule on a bill that broad

jmpinstl

  Spouse routinely works overtime so this is going to help out a ton.  We really needed this.

Psychosis99

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